Ascolta Commentary -
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I went back to the space
I had occupied earlier. The alpha male was no
longer leaning on the banner with his arms crossed, but
he was still scowling. I decided I'd start with
him, since he looked like he was in charge. As I
approached, the dust collector/alleged beer drinker was
off of his stool trying his best to converse with
people. I thought maybe I had it wrong, until he
opened his mouth. When I heard what he asked a
customer, I actually stopped in my tracks. I had
to process what I heard. It's hard to translate
accents or voice inflections in writing, so I'll try to
provide analogies so you can grasp what was going on.
Remember Jeff Spiccoli
(Sean Penn) from the movie "Fast Times at Ridgemont
High"? If not, do your best to imagine the
stereotypical surfer-dude sound. As the Dust
Collector approached a couple, he blurted out the
following: "Hey man, you interested in some Cisco
Training?"
I am not exaggerating.
I can still see it. I can still hear it. Sometimes
I lose sleep over the sheer idiocy of this event.
If you just laughed,
imagine how I felt. Luckily, I had long since
finished my beer. Otherwise, I very well could
have spewed Budweiser through my nose, all over the
floor. All kidding aside, my opinion of the
Ascolta staff went from bad to worse. As I
continued onward towards the Alpha Male, I couldn't help
wondering if the Dust Collector had ever attended ANY
kind of sales training. Was this his very first
time in a public setting, speaking to all of those
potential sales? I figured he was brand new on the
job and was a trainee. I was wrong.
I quickly composed
myself and walked over to the Alpha Male. He was
still scowling. Since he did not acknowledge the
fact that I was breathing the same air, I opened the
conversation. "So, why would I choose Ascolta?"
I thought it was a
pretty simple, straight-forward question. If I
were an Alpha Male, and were in sales, I would AT THE
VERY LEAST have 2 or 3 rehearsed statements touting my
company's benefits and strengths. I'd explain how
our service set us apart from everyone else. I'd
explain how we were awarded the honor of being the
"Cisco Learning Partner Of The Year" for 2007. I'd
say SOMETHING positive. After all, I might be a
$3,000 sale... maybe a $50,000 sale.
At that time, almost
on cue, Mr. Dust Collector stepped in and said, "Well,
let me tell you why you should choose Ascolta." After
listening to him for about 30 seconds, I stopped him.
I introduced myself to the Alpha Male and his minion.
I let them know I was already an Ascolta customer and
had attended multiple classes with them. All of a
sudden, the Alpha Male liked me. He introduced
himself as Fred and his minion as Eric. The
instructor also came over and introduced himself as
Hilson.
We talked about
training for a bit. The conversation eventually
moved to why my organization "Black Lists" training
companies. It comes down to class cancellation.
I work in a remote section of Southwestern Colorado.
Travel to/from training requires a flight from Durango
to either Denver or Salt Lake City, then to the major
city. We are required by our business process and
the airline's flight availability to schedule our
flights a minimum of 14 days prior to travel. Each
time we have to cancel or change a reservation, we take
a hit via a financial penalty. In addition, we
have to schedule/reschedule resources to cover employees
while we're out. In other words, attending a
training class takes planning and money. Some
training companies cancel classes because they don't
have enough students. When that happens multiple
times, we choose not to spend our money with an
unreliable company.
Once I explained this,
Fred (The Alpha Male) insisted that Ascolta doesn't
cancel classes. He actually stood there, looked me
straight in the eyes, and told me, "We even run classes
at a loss if we have to." I was glad to hear that.
When we schedule training, it's for a specific need.
Many times, implementation of a certain technology is
dependent on receiving said training. In other
words, certain facets of our business rely on the
promise of a company to conduct training they've sold.
After that, the
conversation was cordial. UNTIL I tried to put in
a good word for an Ascolta employee that had given us
tremendous service. I mentioned the fact that
Lucie Payne did a great job and that she was the reason
we continued spending our money with Ascolta.
Almost as soon as the last word of that sentence left my
mouth, Fred's arms crossed, the scowl returned, and he
virtually blew me off. I no longer existed.
Eric, on cue again, turned and walked away. It was
almost like a bad commercial.
To his credit, Hilson
took up the slack and conversed with me. I could
tell he was very good at what he did, and he had pretty
good customer service skills.
I stuck around for a
couple of minutes longer, just to see if I would receive
any further interaction from the Alpha Male and his
minion. I didn't. The preceding span of 10
minutes left me feeling irritated. There I was,
not a prospective customer, but an existing customer,
and I was being treated like I had offended them by
saying something good about one of their own. As I
got back to my room, I decided to do a little extra
research on Ascolta. I found a press release
touting Ascolta's Cisco award. It had contact
information pointing to a man named Fred. (Click
here to view) I put two and two
together and figured it was the same guy. The Vice
President of Sales. Wow. No way.
When I discovered
this, I couldn't decide if I was shocked, surprised,
repulsed, angry... or .... maybe... disappointed.
I couldn't help but wondering what it would be like to
work for someone like that, if he conducted himself with
his employees like he did with a customer.
Unfortunately, this was shaping up to be just like an
episode of Dilbert.
Within a couple of
days of this incident, I surfed to Ascolta's website.
I found their feedback page, and submitted a glowing
statement about Ms. Payne's wonderful service.
Since I had very serious doubts about the integrity of
the VP of Sales, I copied the text of the submission,
pasted it into an email, and sent it directly to Ms.
Payne.
July passed, then
August. We had scheduled a total of 5 seats for an
IDS/IPS class in San Jose in September. I had
requested Ms. Payne to schedule 2 of those seats for the
entire week, and an additional 3 seats for the last 2
days, which were dedicated to HIPS. Although it
was a demanding request, she made it happen quickly and
without complaint. Through a scheduling conflict
on our end, and our new campus going online earlier than
anticipated, I ended up having to re-schedule the 3
seats for the HIPS portion of the class. That left
us with two seats for the week long class.
About two weeks before
the class ran, Ms. Payne informed me that Ascolta had
cancelled this class. I was livid. I
explained to her that the VP of Sales had assured me
that Ascolta does not cancel classes and that they would
run the classes at a loss. Apparently, this was
not true. A man whom is supposedly responsible for
a sales organization and ultimately customer service
lied to me. Lying to a customer is one of the
cardinal sins I mentioned at the beginning of this
review. Not only is it a really bad idea to lie to
a large pile of training dollars, it's even worse to get
caught in that lie. My opinion of Ascolta declined
even further. As much as we enjoy going to San
Jose to train with Ascolta, I was taking the necessary
steps to remove Ascolta from our list of authorized
vendors. Ascolta was a signature away from losing
much more business than they imagined. Luckily for
Ascolta, Ms. Payne's quick thinking almost saved the
day. Over a tedious phone call, she made the
effort for us to attend the same class in Irvine a week
later. Unfortunately, this would not work with our
scheduling. Then, right after this episode, we
decided to cancel the ACEOC class in October.
Future training with Ascolta is in question.
During the course of
all these cancellations, I asked Lucie how well her
organization patted her on the back for the glowing
testimonial I'd submitted to the sales team. She
had not heard a single peep about it. This made me
even angrier for a couple of reasons. Firstly, I'm
a paying, returning customer with a laundry list of
classes we still need to take in the next few months.
Also, I'm a very busy man, and I took the time to create
a well thought compliment to their company. I would think that
input given by me, or any similar case, would be pasted
on their website and passed down through TOP management
as a hearty "THANK YOU, GREAT JOB, KEEP IT UP!..
WHAT CAN WE DO TO HELP YOU CONTINUE SUCCEEDING IN
THIS FASHION?"
What did we get
instead? Based on either ME or based on Ms. Payne,
the feedback was pigeon-holed, or accidentally erased,
which demonstrates either incompetence or apathy. OR,
even worse, the feedback was intentionally not mentioned
anywhere because a VPs "favorite" wasn't mentioned.
In this case, I point to pettiness, insecurity, feeling
threatened. Tie all of this together, it smells
like terribly poor leadership. Poor leadership
that has probably lost a significant portion of future
sales.
We have not Black
Listed Ascolta yet due to Ms. Payne's service,
professionalism, and accountability. We've rolled
our dollars already spent into credits toward classes
for next year.
Go back to Fred's
statement to me: "We even run classes at a
loss if we have to." that was a lie.
Here's a portion of
Ascolta's Mission Statement (Click
here to read the whole thing )
"Listening, that's what we're all about. We chose our
name from the Italian word for listen, ascoltare,
because it uniquely describes a value we consider
essential to any successful business relationship. We
know you count on us to listen to your needs and deliver
upon those expectations." ...
From my past
experience with Ascolta, I don't believe this is the
true mantra behind closed doors!
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